there is some element of frustration that washington has not but the re-- put the resources or energy that needed to be there. the public at large should be outraged disgusted. justice department failed. they simply -- whether it is walmart, news corp. bankers they focused instead on baseball players taking steroids. this made no sense. and they simply failed to make the case. >> john: i would like to ask why you think the white house didn't get behind prosecution but that's a whole other interview. i hope you'll come back. s&p, do you have any opinion on the lawsuit the government has filed? >> it was a good case. it was a good case five years later than it should have been. it was the sort of case that could have been brought should have been brought against other organizations where you dig into the e-mails. this is what we were doing 12 years ago. read what people thought. what they thought was not what they said in public. they were selling stuff they knew was not good. just charge them with it. civil, criminal, doesn't matter. the s&p case was good. but it's only one. >> john: i